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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Money Flowing from Stocks to Bonds by libby</title>
		<link>http://ptv-investing.com/blog/2008/11/20/money-flowing-from-stocks-to-bonds/#comment-3163</link>
		<dc:creator>libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There you are Fork....nice to see you all back....I had a very nice support line drawn from sept slope thru oct highs and yesterday it landed perfectly on the support, looks like we have tw0(can't type this morning) Two scenerios rolling in my head,  Not sure if anyone will agree, but 
1) we are still in the triangle of the 4th wave, and we might have just finished the B wave of the triangle or the D wave, why? futures are up big this morning, and E waves move fast and furious.  we go back to 1020, now that would be awsome!

2) Ok, as I had stated a few days ago, we could have started wave 3 of wave 5, but now with futures up like they are, I just think it is funny to go down break the 02' low and now we are rallying?  into a 3 ???? hummmmmmm  could this be wave "2" of wave 5? Yes....it could, because I do not see a gap in the S&#38;P from yesterday...and no gap in Dow.....??? Did we bottom? and did we just spike thru because of all the rumors from Citi bank having trouble again...believe me that move yesterday was not form GM/Ford/Chrysler....and Pelosi....it was from Citi bank and the ? of the year are they going  to merge or get $$$ from Ben....Now who else is short on Cash??? if that big boy is you darn well know that the others are probably hurting, banks took a nose dive...OK   let me know what you all think...I need to go count my pennies from yesterdays haul, some guy on Slopes board yesterday, Went all in and said he made 800K....think that would get you out of that boring job Andy????  LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There you are Fork&#8230;.nice to see you all back&#8230;.I had a very nice support line drawn from sept slope thru oct highs and yesterday it landed perfectly on the support, looks like we have tw0(can&#8217;t type this morning) Two scenerios rolling in my head,  Not sure if anyone will agree, but<br />
1) we are still in the triangle of the 4th wave, and we might have just finished the B wave of the triangle or the D wave, why? futures are up big this morning, and E waves move fast and furious.  we go back to 1020, now that would be awsome!</p>
<p>2) Ok, as I had stated a few days ago, we could have started wave 3 of wave 5, but now with futures up like they are, I just think it is funny to go down break the 02&#8242; low and now we are rallying?  into a 3 ???? hummmmmmm  could this be wave &#8220;2&#8243; of wave 5? Yes&#8230;.it could, because I do not see a gap in the S&amp;P from yesterday&#8230;and no gap in Dow&#8230;..??? Did we bottom? and did we just spike thru because of all the rumors from Citi bank having trouble again&#8230;believe me that move yesterday was not form GM/Ford/Chrysler&#8230;.and Pelosi&#8230;.it was from Citi bank and the ? of the year are they going  to merge or get $$$ from Ben&#8230;.Now who else is short on Cash??? if that big boy is you darn well know that the others are probably hurting, banks took a nose dive&#8230;OK   let me know what you all think&#8230;I need to go count my pennies from yesterdays haul, some guy on Slopes board yesterday, Went all in and said he made 800K&#8230;.think that would get you out of that boring job Andy????  LOL!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Money Flowing from Stocks to Bonds by ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just remebering What Jesus said at Luke 21. It's starting to feel like that. I am sure they felt the same way in 1929.

25 Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remebering What Jesus said at Luke 21. It&#8217;s starting to feel like that. I am sure they felt the same way in 1929.</p>
<p>25 Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and its agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Money Flowing from Stocks to Bonds by ray</title>
		<link>http://ptv-investing.com/blog/2008/11/20/money-flowing-from-stocks-to-bonds/#comment-3146</link>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serge, Thanks for answering my question before I asked it. Hey do you read minds :)

Just a few thoughts for the day:

Is this the "Greater Depression"? In 1929 they had a rally from early November into early 1930 before it went down again. This thing "market" is worse then a falling knife it seems now.

I am starting to see the pain on main street and maybe? Indeed scary if this is just the beggining of what's to come.

My stops triggerged today for the few long positions I was holding. As if I have not learned from past burned my toes again. Too bad I do not own anymore QIDs.

Hey maybe as Libby had it 19 more sessions... or hand over your 401Ks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serge, Thanks for answering my question before I asked it. Hey do you read minds <img src='http://ptv-investing.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just a few thoughts for the day:</p>
<p>Is this the &#8220;Greater Depression&#8221;? In 1929 they had a rally from early November into early 1930 before it went down again. This thing &#8220;market&#8221; is worse then a falling knife it seems now.</p>
<p>I am starting to see the pain on main street and maybe? Indeed scary if this is just the beggining of what&#8217;s to come.</p>
<p>My stops triggerged today for the few long positions I was holding. As if I have not learned from past burned my toes again. Too bad I do not own anymore QIDs.</p>
<p>Hey maybe as Libby had it 19 more sessions&#8230; or hand over your 401Ks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Money Flowing from Stocks to Bonds by Forkoholic Serge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forkoholic Serge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;The SPX looks like it has started wave 5 down from the July 2007 high.

nope, we just in 5 of 3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The SPX looks like it has started wave 5 down from the July 2007 high.</p>
<p>nope, we just in 5 of 3</p>
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		<title>Comment on Long Term A-B-C Correction? by Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'll go for the quarter time correction. ;)....

it was something that flashed through my head at one point too...but I don't know if I read it somewhere else first, or what ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll go for the quarter time correction. ;)&#8230;.</p>
<p>it was something that flashed through my head at one point too&#8230;but I don&#8217;t know if I read it somewhere else first, or what &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Long Term A-B-C Correction? by libby</title>
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		<dc:creator>libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where's the Pitch Fork at this week....I bet he went to Vegas for the traders show????   Andy, Jobless claims in 10 min. it is non-psychological today if you ask me. We just need to finish this 3rd wave and start the larger degree 4, I really think we have another 5 waves to go Andy after 4...but we could do a flat...and that would be the ultimate if you ask me....a grand supercycle acending flat....Yea!...but my heart tells me to get ready for "D" day. I hate to say it...but add it all up like being in a grocery store and there is nothing left unless we all give up our 401 K's to the people who put us in this mess in the first place...really sad....OH Fred, if FSLR breaks 96-93 dollars it is as good as gone....won't be pretty, will look like Goog, and Bidu ....but I do like both of those for later,,,, but I also like gold better...as soon as it reaches 600-625 buy buy buy....Andy found a great  trade for it...DGP...cheap and double down ..we'll get you, out of that depressing job,(me too) after the B wave up, I would like it if Chrib's Mom would do another updated chart....I will go ask,,,, she is good.  OK  nasty jobs report...futures off and running....down...yea me yea me.....gotta go...not sure if I will have a job soon....scarey.....after all these years....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where&#8217;s the Pitch Fork at this week&#8230;.I bet he went to Vegas for the traders show????   Andy, Jobless claims in 10 min. it is non-psychological today if you ask me. We just need to finish this 3rd wave and start the larger degree 4, I really think we have another 5 waves to go Andy after 4&#8230;but we could do a flat&#8230;and that would be the ultimate if you ask me&#8230;.a grand supercycle acending flat&#8230;.Yea!&#8230;but my heart tells me to get ready for &#8220;D&#8221; day. I hate to say it&#8230;but add it all up like being in a grocery store and there is nothing left unless we all give up our 401 K&#8217;s to the people who put us in this mess in the first place&#8230;really sad&#8230;.OH Fred, if FSLR breaks 96-93 dollars it is as good as gone&#8230;.won&#8217;t be pretty, will look like Goog, and Bidu &#8230;.but I do like both of those for later,,,, but I also like gold better&#8230;as soon as it reaches 600-625 buy buy buy&#8230;.Andy found a great  trade for it&#8230;DGP&#8230;cheap and double down ..we&#8217;ll get you, out of that depressing job,(me too) after the B wave up, I would like it if Chrib&#8217;s Mom would do another updated chart&#8230;.I will go ask,,,, she is good.  OK  nasty jobs report&#8230;futures off and running&#8230;.down&#8230;yea me yea me&#8230;..gotta go&#8230;not sure if I will have a job soon&#8230;.scarey&#8230;..after all these years&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonds Show No Interest in the Inflation Argument by rayN</title>
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		<dc:creator>rayN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>market internals for all broke their trendlines today. More new lows for first time too. So that goes out the window. For a non-technical indicator I am just guessing that  markets have not accounted for Big 3 Auto makers going under.

Market could still turn up tomorrow as that reversal day that Fork had mentioned earlier. In that case today would be seen as big Shake out day before the next rally (I call it BEAR until proven otherwise) Andy keeps it in question mark? as a possible new Bull? or do you still Andy? :)

Some stocks that could be leaders of tomorrow held up pretty good today. Cannot mention any names for fear of someone buying them and then hating me later.

Best wishes to all here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>market internals for all broke their trendlines today. More new lows for first time too. So that goes out the window. For a non-technical indicator I am just guessing that  markets have not accounted for Big 3 Auto makers going under.</p>
<p>Market could still turn up tomorrow as that reversal day that Fork had mentioned earlier. In that case today would be seen as big Shake out day before the next rally (I call it BEAR until proven otherwise) Andy keeps it in question mark? as a possible new Bull? or do you still Andy? <img src='http://ptv-investing.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Some stocks that could be leaders of tomorrow held up pretty good today. Cannot mention any names for fear of someone buying them and then hating me later.</p>
<p>Best wishes to all here</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonds Show No Interest in the Inflation Argument by AndyAskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyAskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Libby.  Got a Blackberry with some nice gains from the March cycle turn.  Sponsored a T-Ball team too.  All that money is gone now.  I need a bailout... :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Libby.  Got a Blackberry with some nice gains from the March cycle turn.  Sponsored a T-Ball team too.  All that money is gone now.  I need a bailout&#8230; <img src='http://ptv-investing.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonds Show No Interest in the Inflation Argument by libby</title>
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		<dc:creator>libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH...Andy ...you own a blackberry....Wow....  I have to take back my words I said a few weeks or so ago about you need a blackberry,,, you probably laughed at that....

OK....confirmed wave 3 of 5....now for the targets...ouch...688 on S&#38;p  ...6000 on dow....wave 1 of 5 was 319pts long...wave 5's can be same....some crude #'s for now....gotta go to work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH&#8230;Andy &#8230;you own a blackberry&#8230;.Wow&#8230;.  I have to take back my words I said a few weeks or so ago about you need a blackberry,,, you probably laughed at that&#8230;.</p>
<p>OK&#8230;.confirmed wave 3 of 5&#8230;.now for the targets&#8230;ouch&#8230;688 on S&amp;p  &#8230;6000 on dow&#8230;.wave 1 of 5 was 319pts long&#8230;wave 5&#8217;s can be same&#8230;.some crude #&#8217;s for now&#8230;.gotta go to work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on PTV-Investing.com is Mobile Friendly by Kelly Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy or other readers,
I have relocated my BlackBerry site to http://newBBie.com. Please return to visit at my new web address.
Thanks,
Kelly Carter
BlackBerry Pearl, Curve, Bold, Storm at newBBie.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy or other readers,<br />
I have relocated my BlackBerry site to <a href="http://newBBie.com" rel="nofollow">http://newBBie.com</a>. Please return to visit at my new web address.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Kelly Carter<br />
BlackBerry Pearl, Curve, Bold, Storm at newBBie.com</p>
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